Carrying Guns in National Parks – The Legal Brief!
Carrying Guns in National Parks – The Legal Brief!
Adam Kraut recently went on a trip to Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks, he struggled to find a clear answer initially on this but after some research, he was able to find out the truth. Now he can share it with us!
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Links for this episode:
Public Law 111-24 § 512
https://www.nps.gov/policy/section512.pdf
36 CFR 2.4 – Weapons, traps and nets
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/36/2.4
18 USC 930
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/930
National Park Service Brochure – Guide to Firearm Regulations
https://www.nps.gov/grte/learn/management/upload/imr_gunsparks_brochure_2-2010.pdf
National Park Service – Firearms in Parks (Grand Teton National Park)
https://www.nps.gov/grte/learn/management/firearms.htm
Article on Discharge of Firearm In National Parks
http://helenair.com/lifestyles/outdoors/spokesman-says-glacier-gun-incidents-an-anomaly-in-national-parks/article_5ab9e308-2dfc-5762-b42d-58e2c5077752.html
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I’m packing a gun deal with it
This says you can target shoot inside parks
https://www.fs.fed.us/visit/know-before-you-go/shooting
Be aware that the Army Corp of Engineers do not allow carry on any land owned or leased by them.
Ask me if I give a fuck about the law if I’m about to be killed by a grizzly
What happened to this guys videos? I liked him.
I carry in Yellowstone in case of animal attack. I keep it concealed and would only pull it or use it to defend my family
An employee in a backcountry office in Yellowstone cleared it up for me. Basically, carrying a gun whether in a peaceable journey or concealed/open carry situation is allowed but HEAVILY frowned upon. I was concerned about bears and wanted to carry mine as a last resort. He basically said that if you shoot and kill a grizzly (or any wildlife for that matter) you better be missing an arm when you get back. I’m convinced you’d have an easier time in court if you shot a human being rather than a bear or god forbid a wolf in Yellowstone. All that being said, I did still carry a gun and felt more comfortable in the backcountry for having done so.
You can carry one in yellow stone
So the government can shoot somebody’s dog for barking and charging, but if I shoot a 700 pound bear that’s grounds to getting in trouble? Really? -_-
You better bet I’m sharing this to social media, in Washington we have a great carry laws, mostly LOL. But our old outdated signs up there in the mountains say no firearms dogs or fireworks. But that’s old news apparently, cause I open carry on all my MANY hikes. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Interesting video. Thank you for all your videos. How about this situation! In NC we have several state parks that are owned by Corp of Engineers (Jordan Lake, Kerr Lake for example) The State of NC allows firearms in its state parks but since the Parks sit on Corps land you can’t carry. But why can’t you carry on US Army Corps of Engineers land if The Fed allows you to carry in National Parks?
All the missing hikers, berry pickers in national you’d think that it would be ok. Read the Missing 411 books and you’ll see what I mean. So many people missing in Yosemite. My kids and I will never go there. Hike, but carry a personal locator beacon, bring more supplies than what you need and don’t be last in line.
so we can unironically say Thanks Obama?
I tried to visit Hover Dam . Explained my ccw firearm was locked in the car and would remain there in the parking lot during my visit. I was turned away.
Passing HR 38 in addition to national reprocity would have expanded national parks gun rights to federal land under army Corp of engineers
NOW and Just Now I just realized Why Obummer signed Everywhere a National Park.
So You can’t have guns…
what did you just say?
Good video, Adam. What about National Conservation Areas? I’ve seen reputable websites that say you can carry there, but the weapon cannot be concealed, and also cannot be loaded. What the heck? I’d love to see a video on that subject. FYI, I live in Nevada, and the park I’m thinking of is Red Rock National Conservation Area. Both open and concealed carry (with a license) is legal here. I believe passes for the National Park System are honored at Red Rock. Keep up the good work!
in other words; the officials leave things like this open so they can charge you for literally anything at anytime, ignoring laws to do so. it should be a right anywhere in the world to defend your life by any means necessary against any threat necessary trying to take your life. period. this country needs a reset and clear cut common sense. people shouldn’t be left to decide between dying or living the rest of their days in a cage or legal battle that ruins their livelihood. unbelievable
Only outlaws are free!
more government insanity
I carry and discharge my firearms in the hoosier national forest quite often, and ive never had any issues.
Just make sure you get that attack on camera, deep in wilderness with a charging bear or not, you how the law be sometimes.
Yellowstone is a little complicated, because parts of the Park are in Idaho, where concealed carry by Idaho residents does not require a CCW. There is a strip of the Park in Montana where the law is different and most of the Park is in Wyoming where the law is different again. In general, you can carry in Yellowstone if you have a CCW that is accepted in the state where that part of the Park is located. Since most of Montana is conservative and nearly all of Wyoming is, a CCW from almost anywhere will allow you to carry. Avoid Missoula though. They are very anti-gun there.
I have been carrying anyway. But if I have to fire it, better a legal battle than a bear battle. Bears will kill you.
I carry a gun a .45, just incase of a bear or coyote. I also carry bear spray. I’m put to see the beautiful wilderness, if I don’t have to shoot a bear I won’t. With that being said, I will drop a coyote though.
well, another good reason to fight against the addition of more mnational park acreage.
How’s this work for National forests? I’m assuming it’s the same or similar, but you never want to common sense things that involve guns and/or the federal government.
FYI: According to our Constitution, the federal government does not even have the enumerated authority to own any land in our states except for what is in D.C. That is it. Look it up in the Constitution, and you will see no clause and no amendment that grants the federal government the authority to steal stand lands away from any state. This means that ALL federal parks, national reserves, and any other land that the federal government has claimed are stolen lands from our states. Our states have the duty to take these lands away from the federal government and DARE the sniveling, "public servants" in the federal government to do something about it. You may laugh at me, but I am willing to bet that if ONE state did this duty, the sniveling cowards in our federal government wouldn’t have the courage to do anything about it except bicker and moan.
If my daughter and I were hiking and charged by a bear id without question shoot it. Anyone defending themselves or family shouldn’t get any charges. We should be able to carry anytime. Should!
You can OC. You can only conceal if your permit is recognized by the state of the park you are in. Keep in mind, it’s illegal to discharge anywhere in the park, so sure you shoot a bear, an live. But you’ll be arrested an fined an banned from the park.
This is precisely why I don’t visit national parks!
I would think the discharge of a firearm in self defense would not be a criminal offense in National Parks. If congress passes a bill that allows for carry of a firearm for defensive purposes, why would you be held liable for discharging the firearm in self defense? You basically have the same scenario in cities. It’s illegal to discharge a firearm in city limits but no one questions the discharge of a firearm in a self defense case. The state is only concerned if the shot was justifiable. No prosecutor is going to say, " Well, he clearly feared for his life and shot in self defense, but we should charge him with reckless discharge of a firearm and for disturbing the peace." If a self defense case is ruled justifiable I would assume that means no criminal charges at all are filed.
Im not a felon and i own guns and if i go out hiking or camping into the woods i dont give a damn what the law is my pistol is going with me mother nature has no laws id rather fight in court for discharging my weapon in self defence than to be murdered or mauled to death deep in the woods
In Texas some of the state parks let you enter a dawning yo go hunting on them
bro keep it short. what’s the law?
Prior to 2010 it seems I violated this. Thank god 10 years should be enough limitations of time. And in 2002 i drove across New Jersey from Rhode island to atlanta with hollow point ammunition. I’m glad enough time is passed on that one too.
Why is there more bad grammar, word usage, spelling on gun and martial arts sites than elsewhere. It’s embarrassing.
Right to bear arms has a different meaning when you encounter a grizzly.
Look up the DOCTRINE OF COMPETING HARMS which is totally valid and observed in common law all the time for many many centuries now. Basically, even if you WERE carrying "illegally" (If that was such a thing, and that is a BIG if … ) you are totally 100% allowed to shoot him on sight. Any time following a law would lead to more danger of death and bodily harm to innocents than breaking said law would, you have the right to break the law. this should be common sense but just imagine for example, swerving out of the lane to avoid an oncoming truck that has entered your lane. no judge is going to issue you a traffic citation for not paying attention to the lane markers after the fact
Forget the CCW crap. Carry your 2nd Amendment card. Good in all 50 states.
That dumb and dumber got you a new subscriber lol.
So the bears get a "safe space" and we get to go around their dinner plate? So I guess we just have to put our knife in our mouth and try to hop on it’s back like a bull at the pbr nationals and slit its throat like happy Gilmore did that gator? Dont threaten me with a good time.
Listen if you’re going into the forest / hiking trails etc bring a Fucking gun it’s dog eat dog out there
Voted for you! Hang in there!
Thanks for the info. If a state employer provides you with parking, can they forbid secured handguns in the car? I am close to retirement and work for NY State. I don’t want to jeopardize my retirement and don’t have any firearms in my car, but at my age, I am worried a little. I have conceal carry permits for NY, PA and the Utah permit states. I am under the impression that the state has the right to prihibit guns in their parking loylt, even if thete is no law covering this in NY.
Lol ok lemme just not shoot a fucking grizzly bear charging at me because “environment” god I fucking hate all of these liberal fucking idiots.
Few years back I was here in Northern California Eldorado National Forrest. and was riding my mountain bike and packing my Rugerhawk 44 mag. I came across LBL and Forest Rangers, I told them hey I’m packing am I ok.. They said no we are in Mountain Lion and Bear Country you are good to go.
1 would think, with a grizzly barreling down on them, the firearm is the 1st option. Especially seeing as the brain of said grizzly does not immediately register that it’s dead and it’s still attacking.
"Shall not be infringed’ doesn’t mean "unless we make exceptions!" If an individual isn’t incarcerated, the government has no authority over the weaponry he keeps or bears. If you don’t have the fortitude to stand for what it means stop pretending to by supporting what "they" assert it to mean.
Could you keep your firearm in your car, locked up, outside a federal facility?
I tried looking up thing technicality, but I couldnt get a direct yes or no.