5D Tactical Router Jig PRO Instructions
5D Tactical Router Jig PRO Instructions
Instructional overview for the Router Jig PRO by 5D Tactical. New as of 11-10-17. This is an overview only, please follow the written instructions carefully.
i would not buy the jig it cost three time more than the 80 percent
how much us this set up ?
I wonder can you use this jig on a polymer 80
My router jumped all over the place and ruined one of my lowers, and solutions?
FYI, it is easier to find the drill bits at an Auto Supplier like Napa Auto Parts than say ACE Hardware for the 21/64ths drill bit.
Does the Router Adapter work on Makita cordless router?
The DeWalt DWP611 doesn’t look to be available anymore. What model of Dewalt on the market now would fit the Ready Mill (B)?
Has anyone tried to contact support at 5d and get a response back? I have an order outstanding since Nov 2019. It should have arrived "spring 2020" for the GST-9 and jig. No response from numerous emails. Beginning to think they took my money. Buyer beware!
AS OF 9/29/20 I JUST RECIEVED MY PRO JIG TODAY. BY FEDEX. TOOK OVER 7 WEEKS TO GET IT. THEY WOULD NOT EXCEPT ANY PHONE CALLS AND AS FAR AS EMAILS IT TOOK 6 PLUS WEEKS TO GET A GENERIC REPLY. SHIPPING QUALITY FROM 5D TOTALLY SUCKED. THEY THREW EVERYTHING IN A SOFT FEDEX PADDED BAG.WTF. CONTENTS INSIDE WAS ALL OPENED AND LOOSE RATTLING TOGETHER. GUESS 5D CANT AFFORD A BOX TO PUT SHIPMENT IN………..WTF. THE ROUTER BASE IS NOW CHEAP PLASTIC AND WHERE IT MOUNTS TO THE ROUTER IS EXTREAMLY FRAGILE , LESS THAN 1/16" OF MATERIAL TO HOLD IT TO ROUTER. THE LOWER SIDE PLATES ARE NOW HOLLOW SO OVER HALF OF THE STRENGTH HAS BEEN DELIBERATLY REMOVED BY 5 D. BE ADVISED AS THIS IS BORDER LINE CHEAP JUNK NOW
Can I use this jig on a polymer 80?
Price: $484.95
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Easy-jig-gen-3-/384288977355?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
This includes everything you need to get started
I just finished my second AR yesterday and I’m going to move on with this
I’m telling you check this deal out lol
@ 1:42 into the video, it looks EXPEN$IVE!!!
The finished product look professional, not like my AR-10 where it looks like a blind man with Muscular dystrophy used a hammer and chisel, then just whacked away at it!
5D Tactical continues to ignore my emails regarding shipping my "processed" order they claimed was sent to shipping nearly two weeks ago. I have 5 days left to file a Dispute with Norton Shopping Guarantee who guarantees 5D Tactical’s transactions, so I filed a dispute and I have asked for either my products to be shipped, or my money refunded, IMMEDIATELY.
You don’t take prepayment for what you don’t have, then tell people their order is "processed and sent to shipping" and then don’t ship it!
To make matters worse, they send out repeated ads telling you "order soon, supplies are limited" for something you already paid for, something you were told was "processed and sent to shipping" and then never ship it. . . only PONZI scheme crooks do that!
We will see how 5D Tactical and Norton Shopping handle this. In the morning, I will be getting my bank involved regarding a refund and possible bank fraud, as well as an attorney. With the growing number of people who have been ripped off, like me, some as far back as November 2019, 5D Tactical is setting themselves up for a Class Action. Someone needs to put an end to their shady business practices.
Anyone who placed an order and got the Nortion Shopping Guarantee emailed to you, you only have 30 days to initiate a claim. Had 5D Tactical not sent me an email stating "your order has been processed and has been sent to shipping" I would still be waiting, none the wiser, while they played the 4-8 week production scam and I would have lost my Norton Shopping Guarantee. Talk about underhanded!
And don’t forget all the shipping costs they took funds for… Norton Shopping Guarantee only pulls up the product costs… so lodge a SUPPORT TICKET with Norton and ask that they add the shipping cost. No way 5D Tactical should keep the shipping fees for stuff they don’t ship!
CROOKS!
Can the steel inserts on the side plates be replaced? I love the jig as far as the removal of the material with the mill but in my opinion the Achilles heel if this jig is drilling the holes in the side plates. Don’t get me wrong, I love the jig, it’s far better than the other two brands I have used, I’m just stating where I feel the wear is going to and is happening on my jig. I have been careful to not run the drill until it’s all the way in the hole, still seeing the bushings wearing. Mainly the fire / safe hole, the larger hole.
Any advice on router selection? Any brand more preferable over the others for some reason?
$329 plus router & tool costs.
In this video we are using the DeWalt DWP611 router. It’s the best suited router for this application, and the only model that scored 10/10 during our extensive testing. A close second was the Makita RT0701C, scoring a 9/10. If you limit your choices to one of those two routers, you will be off on the right foot. It should be noted that while the DeWalt is our favorite router, the Makita is about $50 cheaper. Here is a link to our full review: https://info.5dtactical.com/2016/08/03/router-guide-for-finishing-80-lower-receivers/
Speaking from experience, one should drill through BOTH sides instead of one. This prevents uneven holes caused by the drill bit "walking" itself at an angle.
Is the jig able to be used on both billet and forged receivers and if so was that a billet 6061 or forged 7075 lower that was shown being milled ? It appears to be a billet lower (correct me if I’m wrong). Btw, it’s a great video !
I like the 80% gen 2 more. But this jig has some pros over it. The side blocks on this jig are thiccc lol, and you can drill the fcg holes without a drill press. The 80% gen 2 requires stabilizer blocks for hand drilling. Ive done it a few times without the stabilizer blocks,but the fear of messing up 50+ $$ had me worried. Plus you can use standard endmills with the gen 2. I used the harbor freight bauer router. Its a beast, And works very well. Anyways, Have fun
Note to DWP611 router owners, if you’re having issues with your depth lock slipping and your depth changing while operating with the ready mill, I have found a fix that works for me. The "pad" that makes contact with the inner router housing from the guide sleeve lockdown buckle is smooth metal, after a little use, this smooth metal to aluminum housing will begin to slip, no matter how tight you adjust the tension screw on the locking buckle. If you pull off the router guide outer sleeve, you’ll notice there are two small vertical indexing guide slots on the left and right of the aluminum ROUTER housing portion, as you face the front. On the right side slot, you’ll notice the matching outer guide sleeve has two small metal or plastic pins that ride in this slot to keep it indexed while turning the depth dial. I drilled and tapped a #6-32 tpi hole in the OUTER guide housing a half inch below those two very small alignment pins and installed #6-32 thumbscrews on both sides so they were directly over the vertical indexing slots on both right and left sides. Now you are no longer depending on a "friction fit" for your locking mech on your router. Set the depth as normal, lock normally with the lockdown buckle, then give the thumbscrews that now are on the right and left of your router guide sleeve a quick snug and you’re locked down on 3 points, the left and right thumbscrews and the original locking buckle.
I personally have an 80% arms router Jig and it is hands down the best finish for 80 lowers,no I’m not saying it’s better than a 5D because they are identical to the 80% arms jig,and I mean they are exactly identical,so you should surely buy this if you want quality finish and not a bunch of chatter marks🤷🤷🤷.
Don’t be fooled, there’s been a revision. I was really disappointed. Waited 9 weeks to get it, and what I got was a skeletonized aluminum sides and a damn plastic router plate. And the wrong size take down pin.
I emailed them, it’s been 2 weeks, no answer. Not to mention it was poorly packaged in a plain cardboard box. Not anywhere near what you see on these videos. It’s funny, 9 weeks is about the time stuff ships from China! Sorry I feel I got screwed!
Tap Magic for Aluminum 😉👍
Just finished my AR10 lower with my 5D Tactical Jig and it turned out absolutely perfect! I hooked up a foot pedal to the router so that I could
soft start in the hole when taking a new cut and it just made it easier to control the router. I bought the dewalt that you recommend and it just
all worked perfect! Couldn’t be happier and I’m ready to do some more! 🙂 I uploaded a video of my finished AR10 on my channel, check it out!
First video under Firearms.
A little help here . . . please! The vid says the black buffer plate for AR15 and AR9 and the gray buffer plate for the .308 and AR10.
Here is the issue. I thought the AR10 is the .308 or does it mean AR 10mm. I have both 80% lowers and they are markedly different
in terms of thickness. So here I am patiently waiting for clarity.
The hardest part is forking over the money for the jig. This looks incredibly simple.
God bless these
American boys
I would hope that with all of the ATF activity you will see the handwriting on the wall and get rid of your shipping / customer data so your loyal customers will not get their items confiscated.
I ordered this jig August 5th, just received yesterday October 10th. The packaging was awful. It was in an envelope and the ready mill and drill bits were loose inside said envelope. That $30 end mill bit was completely unprotected. The worst part, is, the router base is PLASTIC, yes the piece that holds the bearing is plastic. WTH. I waited patiently for more than 9 weeks, and they pull a bait and switch like that. Unbelievable.
Awesome! I’m glad you have an instruction video! I ordered my jig and bit set 4/22 and I’m excited for my very first build!
I ran weaponeer.net for 18 years (owner) and now focusing on Gun Videos especially high-speed videos. we have been wanting to get your jigs for some time to share with the gun community we still represent. sadly, covid-19 got in the way of it happening this year, and maybe not next year the way the budgets have been going. (already have 10 AR’s, so it’s not the highest priority)
I still don’t understand what this is for
Anyone know what magazines you can run in these lowers
What kind of vise is that?
For anyone who thinks my posts are full of s**t… consider the following:
1. BOTH 5D Tactical and Modulus Arms are exactly 2 miles from each other… There is no way in HELL they don’t know about each other.
2. Both are located in STRIP MALLS. There is NO WAY they are running an industrial "FACTORY" from these buildings.
3. Both are smaller than a McDonald’s – One is within 200 feet of an actual McDonald’s and you can clearly see it’s much smaller!
4. One actually shares the building with – A Nail Spa, Fabulous Burgers, Watch Shop – and wait for it… UPS Store! Makes being a Drop Shipper really easy!
5. Both are located less than 5 miles from… Disneyland!
6. Both are surrounded by dense housing, schools, apartments, strip malls… NO Industrial Parks at all!
7. Neither of these building will have 3 Phase power necessary for operating an Industrial CNC Factory!
I stand by my assertions that these companies have been outsourcing production to China, who is slow walking exports because of all the Anti-China rhetoric… which they clearly deserve. These companies cannot afford to bring production back to the U.S. without raising prices and explaining why. It’s easier to play the "we are swamped and working 24/7" card for nearly a year (November 2019). Everything was fine, orders shipping in a reasonable time frame, no one was the wiser… until the WooFlu from China and all the export tariffs hit and China started slow-walking exports across the board. After all, why provide the capability for your enemy to produce legal, untraceable, AR-15’s?
They can certainly prove me wrong by doing a live video of their 24/7 factories in operation… at which point I will consider an apology. Until then… Buyers Beware.
I got this message August 24th, 2020:
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Customer Care Agent (5D Tactical)
Aug 24, 2020, 5:22 PM PDT
Hi David,
I performed a checkup on your order #111111, which has been processed and is currently awaiting shipment!
Thank you for reaching out to us and I do sincerely apologize for the delay as we are literally receiving hundreds of emails a day and we are trying to respond to all of them.
As per our banner and in our product descriptions all orders are currently expected to ship within a 4-8 week time frame from the date they are made.
We are currently operating our factory 24 hours a day in order to produce as many lower receivers and jigs as we possibly can.
Every product we make goes straight from our factory to fulfill the oldest order on our waiting list.
Once it ships you will receive all the tracking information by email, and it should arrive in 1-3 days after that!
Again, I apologize for any inconvenience during this busy time of year and want to thank you very much for your patience.
Please let us know how you would like to continue with your order.
With gratitude for your patronage and patience,
________________________________________
5D Tactical
Customer Experience Specialist
________________________________________
So, my $800 order was "processed and awaiting shipping."
But… "Orders are expected to ship within 4-8 week time frame from the DATE THEY ARE MADE"
But… "Every product we make goes straight from our factory to the oldest order on our waiting list."
You would think when they send you an email telling you your order is done, processed and awaiting shipping… that your name was next on the list!
MY RESPONSE:
So, when you say my order “has been processed” you mean it’s been produced? That’s how I read it.
So, when you say my order “is currently awaiting shipment” you mean my order is finished and ready to ship? That’s how I read it.
So, when you say it can take 4-8 weeks to ship “from the date they are made” you mean my order is done and will sit in your shipping department for up to 8 weeks? — That seems very excessive, when one person should be able to pack and process hundreds of boxes a day… I know, because we have done it! We are all under production pressure, but we certainly don’t make excuses… we get it done!
Please clarify and address my concerns. If my order isn’t completed and isn’t ready to ship promptly… then why did I even get this email?
Regards,
xxxxx xxxxxxx
Beautiful, cant wait to get started
So should I order this one or the 80% Arms? Which one are you guys pushing out the quickest?
I finally got my jig after 8-1/2 weeks. By then I was so pissed.
FYI…. if you are using Mikita, you will need to install rear plate bracket –
(Very easy to install) will use only three of the Phillips screws- hope this will help someone.
I just got off the phone with my bank. They have opened a dispute and turned it over to their FRAUD Division. They said I should hear back within a 10 day period, unless additional information is required.
I am going to unleash the hounds of hell against 5D Tactical and their corrupt business practices. They have no excuse for sending emails that say "your order is processed and awaiting shipping" and never ship the order or respond to your emails or phone calls. This is not how MADE IN AMERICA Manufacturing operates. . . but it is how China operates.
Also: Norton Shopping Guarantee got back to me. Fred said that the guarantee only covers product costs not shipping and handling… even for products that were NEVER shipped! Imagine that… thousands of "guaranteed" orders that get charged $10 or more for shipping, that never ship and if you are lucky, all you lose is the shipping for product that never shipped! Talk about FRAUD!
So… open your Dispute with Norton but also with your bank. Your bank will get 100% of your money back… depending on your bank and their Fraud protocols.
Great demo. My product arrived in 18 days even though they said it could take up to 8 weeks. Pleasantly surprised.
A final update:
I opened a dispute with Norton Shopping Guarantee as well as my bank, who opened a FRAUD investigation. Within about three days, I received a phone call from a "restricted" number. 99.99% of the time I blow off those calls, however, this time I took it.
On the other end was a gentlemen, with an accent, who identified himself as representing 5D Tactical. I brought him up to speed in short order. He proceeded to blame the communication on "new associates" hired by 5D Tactical to handle the influx of phone calls and not knowing how to handle the new "digital responses" (digital as in automated responses???).
He said he would look into why I was told my order was ready but didn’t ship but had to connect with shipping. I hear him "typing" furiously. After a couple of minutes, he got back on the call and said he had reached out to shipping and was waiting for them to get back to him with an answer. I said "fine, i will stay on the line until they get back to you with an answer."
After several more minutes of furious keyboarding noise, he got back on the line and said "your order is indeed ready to go but they are waiting on one last lower to arrive from the anodizing company." I asked " when will it arrive and when will my order actually ship?" More keyboarding….. then he got back on the line… "it should be here Friday and it should ship end of business."
So, I said "Fine. But I want documentation, from you, of our conversation and your commitment to ship by end of business tomorrow." More keyboarding… then he said " I have updated the dispute with our conversation. I will also email you a confirmation and will monitor that email of 5 days (weird… 5 days?) looking for any issue you have. You should have everything by Monday or Tuesday at the latest." I asked for a direct number to call him if there were issues and he said "no, as you can see, we have switched to "restricted" numbers. That was reassuring.
I went back to my Norton dispute and he did update with a response, though not a very complete one as we had agreed he would do. So, I followed up with a "confirmation" reply of my own, documenting everything he left out. . . then started a new waiting game.
Within less than two hours, I received an email from 5D Tactical that my order was already shipping and was provided a tracking number. I guess the anodizing company was a lot faster than they expected… or it wasn’t that at all. Just more smoke up my pant leg.
The tracking updated a couple of transitions then for whatever reason, it sat in Yoncalla, California for four days, then eventually moved again to Oregon, where it sat for two more days… missed the 15th, then the 16th delivery dates and finally arrived on the 17th. I have just opened and sorted through everything. It seems to be complete but final assembly and fitment will tell.
In the end, all I can say, is never, never, take the crap, canned answers from any company that takes your money when they say they won’t, then doesn’t ship product they say is ready to ship. You have to control your own outcome. Get everyone involved, including your bank, to put pressure on the seller… and at the very least, get your money back, if you have a righteous bank with basic customer purchase protections. This is the third time in less than 5 years, where I have had to climb up the corporate ladders or get my bank involved, to resolve costly, shady activity. Each time, armed with documented facts (very important), I was able to get satisfaction and or restitution.
It’s daunting, but it’s my hard earned money and I will NOT let anyone walk away with it blow smoke… when they do, they find out they have messed with the bull and gotten the horns. Be the bull with the horns not the person who got run over and had your money taken.
As for the Jig… it looks very good. The lowers also look very nice. Performance wise, using it in the coming days is the only way to tell. When I do use it, I will try to muster the energy one more time, to log onto this channel and post an update. In all reality, I want this behind me and move forward… always forward. And if I never see this channel or a 5D Tactical video again, it’s fine with me.
Out.
i was about to buy one, but i got an email from yall saying the parts have been changed. the side rials are now skelontonised and the router base plate is now plastic.
if i make an order, do you have some of the non-"improved" versions left in stock?
The best Jig on the market.
Can someone link me to one of those desk clamps
5D is still "promoting" product as thought they have it in stock when the DO NOT!
RECEIVED THIS ON 9/2/20
"Looking to build a gun you’re going to rattlecan anyway? Don’t care about some small spots or scratches because you’re a man? Just wanna save some money?
Already marked down lowers are now marked down again. Save 10%. Use code:
BLEM10
"
Site then says "EMAIL ME WHEN IT BECOMES AVAILABLE"
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Total clown show. Like so many other "Made In America" companies, they have quietly outsourced manufacturing (see previous post) and got caught in the America/China Feud and we are in the middle.
They cannot bring it back onshore without a serious price increase. So, all of our pre-orders would either have to be fulfilled at the original purchase price or they would have to seriously raise prices and give you the option of still purchasing or cancelling and may or may not tell you why.
Obvious answer: It cost’s a lot more to bring manufacturing back to America and have it made by Americans with American materials.
I am more than willing to have 5D Tactical (and the other players in the 80% Jig Game) correct me WITH PROVABLE FACTS that contradict previous communications and all the circumstantial evidence to the contrary. The ball is in their court.
The simple fact is this:
There are at least THREE companies hawking the SAME design of 80% Jig.
All three say the EXACT same thing regarding being "Unable to meet demand"
All three say the same EXACT thing regarding working "24/7"
All three use the same EXACT auto-responder "Customer Service Specialist
Two of the three say they are unaware anyone is selling the same, identical jig
IF all of these manufacturers were working "around the clock" – "24/7" – there would be no 8 week backlog for the past 6 months. Modern CNC machines can produce a minimum of one jig every 7 minutes. That equates to 1,440 per week for just one manufacture of these identical jigs, running 24/7 per their claims. Over the past six months, one manufacturer would have produced 37,440 jigs… All three would have produced 112,320 jigs!
They expect us to believe that 112,320 people ordered that jig over the past 6 months?! – That’s $33,606,000 dollars, which a logical person would assume was partly reinvested in additional equipment to increase production even further!
In the brief period of comms, before they went dark, I suggested offering a "Bare" non-anodized option to save time in the production process… I was told explicitly that option would never be offered. I offered to sign a NDNC and assist in production… SILENCE. Shortly thereafter, all comms ceased. So, Made In America doesn’t want Made In America help… and find it 100% acceptable to take Americans money, continue to sell items they do not have in inventory, and not ship orders after emailing (me) that "your order is finished and awaiting shipping!"
The Drill Press jigs are in the same boat…. NOTHING they are saying makes ANY sense if they stick to their Made In America story. . . unless it’s one dude in his garage, the Government has given them a cease and desist order… or (most likely) China is pissed at America and is slow-walking exports.
Prove me wrong 5D… !
Post a video of your "American" manufacturing facility running 24/7 for the past 6+ months (closer to 10, as several people were still waiting since NOVEMBER 2019!)
Show us how you have clipboards overflowing with orders…
Show us how you have piles and piles of boxed jigs being shipped 24/7…
Show us how you cannot keep up with demand….
You won’t because you can’t!
I’ll keep checking back… I fully expect the video you posted two years ago. . . will continue to be the last video you post.
I’ll make you an offer: $20,000 for ALL your CNC files and a full release of ownership to all designs of ALL your jigs and patents. Also, a signed NDNC document and cessation of all offshore manufacturing of ALL components, kits, etc – immediately and in perpetuity – and a letter outlining ALL contractual agreements, past and present, and ALL outstanding orders, ALL Accounts Receivable and Payable and ALL historical financials for the past 10 years – including Audits, Tax Returns, settlements et al, and shut down the 5D Tactical Website.
Make me go away by:
Shipping my $800 order…
Selling me the business…
Come clean in public…
Refund ALL prepayments and shut down your business…
All of the above.
Can this be used on a Polymer lower without damaging to the end mill or jig?